>>800777
Да, мотивация, мягко говоря, слабовата.

Ну вот его бате нигра голову отрубил, потому что он работал на "идиотов". И вот он сам в яму упал, потому что работал на "идиота". Хотя, конечно, никто вас не заставлял брать эти работы, и никто тебя, Боба, не заставлял работать на Джаббу. Ты сам это выбрал. Нечего винить других. Каким это образом Джабба тебя обвёл вокруг пальца, как ты сам сказал? Не было такого. Он тебе платил, вот ты там и стоял. Это был твой осознанный выбор. Сам полетел драться с Люком, сам подошёл вплотную против светошашки, сам упал в яму. Кто виноват? Вот и вся мотивация — нужно самому становиться этим "идиотом", который нанимает других делать грязную работёнку. Конечно же, в обязанности Джаббы, да и любого "криминального авторитета", входила и наркоторговля, и рабство, и проституция. Но, конечно, эти темы сериал аккуратно игнорирует. Боба у нас благородный. Несмотря на то, что он является абсолютно нелегальным "преступным лордом", преступности он не совершает. Ну и сама глупость Бобы, который вообще не понимает ни черта что он делает. Это было бы забавно, если бы не было так грустно и утомительно. Мужик в бизнесе с раннего детства, всю жизнь был в криминале и занимался этим, а на деле полный Биба.

Мудрый и пафосный дед, потому что жил с Фрименами Тускенами лет пять, судя по всему. Хотя по сериалу и не скажешь. Такое ощущение, что прошло не больше недели. Вот и "научили" его семье и ценностям.

Согласен, что сериал кажется абсолютно вторичным, не имеющим цели, довольно унылым и пустым. Харизмы у Бобыча, к сожалению, нет. Смотреть на его лысую голову и идеально белоснежные зубы становится утомительно, как и слушать его унылый голос и пафосные, вытянутые речи. Сценарий отвратителен, диалоги просто невероятно кринжовые, на уровне Атаки Клонов, может даже ниже. Я не понимаю, зачем было тратить деньги и время на это, когда эти ресурсы можно было бы потратить на Мандо/Асоку — сериалы, у которых есть цель, интересные персонажи и сюжет не высосанный из пальца. Кому интересен этот пердёж на Татуине? Не понятно. Это материал уровня вторичных комиксов. 4 эпизода из 7, и игра всё еще абсолютно не стоит свеч. Сравнить этот срам с воскрешением Мола, у которого, по сути, такая же роль была — злодей, которого считали погибшим, и который стал преступным лордом. Но там и головы летели, и люди умирали пачками, и присутствие и атмосфера, никакой глупости, персонаж был умён и коварен, в отличии от. Ни в какое сравнение не идёт. Полное разочарование.

>>801080
Таак, ну давай разберём по частям тобою написанное.

>Войны клонов вышли между 2-3 эпизодом

2Д Войны Клонов — экспериментальный проект, не более. Не канон, и никогда им не был.

>ComingSoon.net: How much overlap will there be between Genndy's "Clone Wars" animated series and the new feature film and television series?

>George Lucas: Well, the Genndy show was an experiment that we did with Cartoon Network that was 5 minutes each, they went sort of where commercials normally go, and it was an experiment, not only in doing five-minute shows, but it was an experiment in trying to translate "Star Wars" into an animated medium, and we felt very good about that. We thought it turned out really well, and we then took it to the next level, which was to do a full-out animated series of "The Clone Wars." There's not much overlap. Genndy did most of the animation and most of the stories for the first experimental series, and this one I'm pretty much following the mythology and the rules of the features, so it's a little bit different, but it's very much like the features except it's in animation. We decided to do it in a slightly different style than Genndy did, still in the anime genre, but we took it a little differently.

>Там был грифус

Параша Тартаковского не имеет ничего общего с Лукасовским Гривусом, Гривусом из "Мести Ситхов" и "Войн Клонов" (2008). Другой внешний вид, другой голос, другая личность, другой уровень.

>“One of the big issues behind Grievous was that… I didn’t want a big powerful villain. I wanted a cunning, you know, almost cowardly villain who isn’t super-strong or super-powerful, but at the same time, you know, is a good fighter, but not- I didn’t wanna get somebody bigger and stronger and more powerful than the other villains that we’ve had, going to the next level. I wanted him to be slightly more like the emperor. Slightly more on the sleazy, behind-the-scenes kind of guy. That’s why I set up the fact that he always runs at the end of every fight- he always gets away.”— George Lucas, Revenge of the Sith audio commentary

>TFN: So what is the deal with General Grievous’ origin? There’s the first version with the shuttle crash where Dooku upgraded him and there’s the new one with him choosing to upgrade himself. Why the different versions?

>Henry Gilroy: George envisioned something different than what was created for the EU and Dave and I jumped at the chance to explore that. In my mind, the EU origin created a character that was twisted and bitter and very tragic, but not very fun. The great thing about Vader in A New Hope is, as soon as you see him onscreen, you want to boo him. He’s so over the top evil. Same with the Emperor. They are pure evil and they are fun — bad guys you love to hate! Well, until we know who Vader is. Anyway, knowing that poor old Grievous has this background as a noble warrior who was fighting for his people, then was sadly tricked my Dooku reduced him to a straight up pawn, who was played by the seppies, because he really wasn’t the master of his own destiny, he was more a product of Dooku’s evil machinations than his own pride and villainy. It was more in Grievous’ character (as created by George Lucas) to choose to upgrade himself, because he chose to sacrifice his ‘humanity’ for the power to become the greatest killer in the galaxy. He wasn’t able to do it via The Force, so he chose to make himself into a mechanical monster that dominated the most powerful beings in the galaxy, the Force users, the Jedi. Grievous is not a tragic character, he’s a cold blooded mass murderer, a classic old school villain (and different from Vader) in that he doesn’t have any redeeming characteristics. What kind of a vain egomaniac has statues of himself in his house? Maybe one who is trying to convince himself he did the right thing.

>Dave Filoni: I tried to talk about this in the commentary I do online. Henry and I knew this would be a big one for EU fans. I tend to think of the Episode “Lair of Grievous” as a look more into the mind of Grievous. How you interpret the story depends largely on what backstory you like. If you believe Grievous was shot down in a shuttle by Dooku and put back together, I think that story is there, it’s just that Grievous has invented this new “story” of choosing his alterations. If you don’t believe in the EU version of the story or didn’t like it, then perhaps this new revelation that Grievous was a warrior whose lust for power made him choose to be altered, suits you better. Again a great many of the truths we cling to depend largely on our own point of view. Grievous was a great warrior in both stories, he was a Kaleesh in both stories, the major differences depend on what you believe about his past. In the end I have to say this, many die hard EU fans pick and choose the stories they think are canon based on what they like and what they don’t like. They read a novel they like it and it’s ‘in’, they don’t like it, and it’s ‘out.’ Well, we get our like and dislike in the EU directly from George and he created Star Wars, I have to say that’s a pretty big trump card. Regardless, much effort goes into trying to word things or shoot things so that the existing EU can remain, if only at times from a certain point of view.

>Там заправляла в это время уже ковбойская шляпа.

Нет, Джордж Лукас заправлял всем от начала и до конца.

>Henry Gilroy: On the first 13 episodes I wrote premises with Dave that went to George for approval, he made his notes, then we went through outline and script phase and George would see the scripts when Dave and I and Catherine were happy with them, he’d make notes and the scripts would go final.

>On most shows, that would be the end of the writing process, but on Clone Wars, that’s about ‘the middle’ of the writing process, because once the episodes get into animatic \ story reel in editorial, Dave and George go through them, rewriting, adding and subtracting, etc...

>Halfway through the first season, George was so excited with what we were doing, he came in one day with an outline and handed it to me, “Turn that into a script.” It was a story called ‘Count Dooku Captured.” From then on, George got into the writing \ scripting process in a big way. On season two, ALL of the story ideas came from George, except a couple that were originally written in season one by Dave and I (& Dini). Season three is the same way.

>George is the Alpha and the Omega, and is involved in the story from beginning to end. On The Clone Wars, that means from the initial story idea until the final sound mix. I knew from the moment I got the job that The Clone Wars was going to be George's show. My job was to execute his vision and I have always tried my best to do that.

>Dave Filoni: George is always good at listening to ideas. He does pitch us every story now and gives us rather detailed outlines. In first season, it was a little different, but now a lot of the time George will come in and say, “I want to do a story about ‘X’.” Now the part you are all interested in — if what he pitches includes areas that are covered in the EU — this is my only real chance to get the EU material in on the ground floor of the story, right at the beginning, when George presents his idea. I will bring up ideas that are similar in the EU, or talk about how that particular group of characters already has a backstory. Sometimes I would print out whole Wookiepedia entries and show it to him, but now I use the big official encyclopedia set. In the end it is up to George whether it counts or not and that’s his right as the creator of the Star Wars Universe.

>“This is Star Wars, and I don’t make a distinction between The Clone Wars series and the films.”— George Lucas, SciFiNow, October 2011

>“I am the father of our Star Wars movie world - the filmed entertainment, the features and now the animated film and television series,” he says. “And I’m going to do a live-action television series. Those are all things I am very involved in: I set them up and I train the people and I go through them all. I’m the father; that’s my work. Then we have the licensing group, which does the games, toys and books, and all that other stuff. I call that the son - and the son does pretty much what he wants.” He laughs. “Once in a while, they ask a question like ‘Can we kill off Yoda?’, things like that, but it’s very loose."

>“Then we have the third group, the holy ghost, which is the bloggers and fans. They have created their own world. I worry about the father’s world. The son and holy ghost can go their own way.”— George Lucas, Flannelled One, July 2008, "George Lucas: Mr Emperor strikes back", Times Online

> И именно он и притащил из РВ, эту порашу в виде живого мола.

Нет, Лукас лично притащил Мола, и засетапил его в "Войнах Клонов" для своих сиквелов, над которыми он начал работать в 2012, и написал story treatments, которые Дисней проигнорировали.

>As far as how the concept of bringing Maul back for Clone Wars came about, Filoni explained that idea came directly from Lucas himself. Filoni said, "We would be in a story meeting and [Lucas] would often say stuff like 'I've got an idea and you're gonna love it,' and I thought, 'Ohhhhh, that so seldom lines up.' Then he said, 'We're bringing Darth Maul back,' and I said, 'Really?'"

>The director was initially reluctant about the idea, pointing out, "One of the things I really loved about Phantom Menace was that he was cut in half, and I thought that was so smart because it ends the debate, not like Boba [Fett] going into the Sarlaac. Endless debate, right? I mean, it's over, he's cut in half. And he said, 'No, he's coming back.' And I said, 'Well how does that work?' And he said, 'I don't know, you'll figure it out.'"

>George Lucas:I had planned for the first trilogy to be about the father, the second trilogy to be about the son, and the third trilogy to be about the daughter and the grandchildren.

>Episode VII, VIII, and IX would take ideas from what happened after the Iraq War. "Okay, you fought the war, you killed everybody, now what are you going to do?" Rebuilding afterwards is harder than starting a rebellion or fighting the war. When you win the war and you disband the opposing army, what do they do? The stormtroopers would be like Saddam Hussein's Ba'athist fighters that joined ISIS and kept on fighting. The stormtroopers refuse to give up when the Republic win.

>They want to be stormtroopers forever, so they go to a far corner of the galaxy, start their own country and their own rebellion.

>There's a power vacuum so gangsters, like the Hutts, are taking advantage of the situation, and there is chaos. The key person is Darth Maul, who had been resurrected in The Clone Wars cartoons—he brings all the gangs together.

>Paul Duncan: Was Darth Maul the main villain?

>George Lucas: Yeah, but he's very old, and we have two versions of him. One is with a set of cybernetic legs like a spider, and then later on he has metal legs and he was a little bit bigger, more of a superhero. We did all this in the animated series, he was in a bunch of episodes.

А теперь зашивайся и подставляй ротешник, маня.